{"id":343,"date":"2025-07-21T17:08:26","date_gmt":"2025-07-21T17:08:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/?page_id=343"},"modified":"2026-01-27T14:38:31","modified_gmt":"2026-01-27T14:38:31","slug":"is-there-still-anarchy-in-the-u-k","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/?page_id=343","title":{"rendered":"IS THERE STILL ANARCHY IN THE U.K.?"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"343\" class=\"elementor elementor-343\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-51353a6 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"51353a6\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-00cd021 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"00cd021\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/elementor\/thumbs\/articles-title-rdw3zz954ju4zv1t80iuxmy22qvqljfi7iejdanjo6.jpg\" title=\"articles title\" alt=\"articles title\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b7b2905 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"b7b2905\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a965fba e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"a965fba\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7a219e5 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"7a219e5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"> IS THERE STILL ANARCHY IN THE UK?<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a6e0b56 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a6e0b56\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">I already know that the first line of an article is supposed to be catchy, intriguing, maybe shocking&#8230; but definitely in some way, is also supposed to make the reader feel ensured that the writer is informed. I&#8217;m going to do the opposite and tell you that I&#8217;m not a fucking punk scholar! All I have to hold on to is the hope that the perspective of a 20 year old \u2013 writing 42 years on from when the first punk single in the UK was released \u2013 is at least (vaguely) interesting and new. Though to help me out a bit, I&#8217;ll be including opinions and quotes from punk musicians who actually know what they&#8217;re talking about (all retrieved from interviews, documentaries and writings created by people much more talented and hard-working than me). Anyway, in order to give any kind of answer to the title question, I thought it&#8217;d be best to establish three things:<\/span><\/p><ol><li><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Is PUNK an ATTITUDE or a SOUND?<\/span><\/p><\/li><li><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Does POLITICS make PUNK?<\/span><\/p><\/li><li><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Did PUNK DIE?<\/span><\/p><\/li><\/ol><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Once we have a grip on a working, supported definition of punk and understand if or when it disappeared and in what circumstances, we can conclude whether it&#8217;s dead and gone, or been lying dormant to erupt again.<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ce4b708 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"ce4b708\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">ATTITUDE OR SOUND?<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e9c17a1 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e9c17a1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">I think we know punk when we hear it, but what makes its sound? If we believe that everything is formed by its past, whether in influence or rejection, then it&#8217;s my best guess that the same thing happened with punk. Although it&#8217;s always felt like an unspoken law to scorn rock\/metal giants like Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath, Arturo Bassick of The Lurkers mentioned that he&#8217;s \u201cfallen asleep at a Black Sabbath concert\u201d, mainly because of the abundance of \u201clong guitar solos and twenty minute numbers\u201d which all felt \u201ctoo long [and] drawn out\u201d. Explains the incentive for quick, snappy chord changes in tracks no longer than two minutes \u2013 so was punk a defiance against its preceding 70s rock and metal, riddled with self-indulgent solos performed on 7-foot high stages?<\/span><\/p><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">More obviously and a lot less arguably, punk is a massive fuck-you to the sweetened bubblegum pop slathered all over the media in the 80s, 70s and \u2013 well since ever, really. It makes sense to combat all the sugar with almost stupid levels of volume, speed, energy and viciousness, and all of this reaching the UK Top Ten on a few occasions (I&#8217;ll have to find all the videos I can of incongruous Top of the Pops punk performances) was a total revolution. This chaos was appealing, and it&#8217;s easy to see how punk caught on; Rat from the Varukers says \u201c[punk] just seemed so exciting after watching shit bands on TV like ABBA, The Bay City Rollers and Boney M\u201d. With that, I think we&#8217;ve accepted that a lot of punk was born out of distaste for the banality paraded around the charts in the 70s, but surely what ignited, justified, and unified this active feeling was an attitude?<\/span><\/p><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Well, yes. First of all, everyone who thought Boney M and Cliff Richard were shit at that time all shared that level of defiance in common, particularly in an environment where it wasn&#8217;t really okay to go against the grain (it&#8217;s hard to think that by the late 70s, homosexuality had been legalised barely 10 years earlier). Adding to that though, was a feeling of <i>wanting <\/i>to be the opposite of what&#8217;s been idealised \u2013 all the long hair, baggy clothes and disco dancing became short spikes, leather jackets and &#8216;dancing&#8217; I&#8217;d describe as half-pogoing and half-beating-the-shit-out-of-everyone (but most of the time quite amiably) This leads up to Captain Sensible&#8217;s philosophy: \u201cpunk rock should be appalling, disgraceful, [muttering what sounds like an apology to the cameraman as he tips over a nearby table] \u2026 just vomit on life and get your fucking arsehole out [demonstrated] \u2026 that&#8217;s punk rock for you\u201d. You could say punk was just rejection for the sake of it, just to piss people off, but it definitely carried a strong message: you can&#8217;t tell us what we want.<\/span><\/p><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">So, punk undeniably has its own sound \u2013 formed predominantly by a rejection a pop \u2013 and this naked rejection is inevitably founded on an attitude of rebellion. Can one exist without the other? Punk with no attitude is posing, and the attitude that makes punk can be used in other genres (a lot of rap shows the same anti-police, anti-discrimination and anti-establishment energy) without it sounding like punk. Looks like there&#8217;s always been a bit of both.<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9bc6d57 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"9bc6d57\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">IS THERE PUNK WITHOUT POLITICS?<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ec2ccb7 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ec2ccb7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\">Looking back on 70s and 80s punk, it&#8217;s easy to think politics is integral to punk. If you listen to practically anything by Crass, Subhumans, the Dead Kennedys, The Exploited&#8230; it seems clear that these bands&#8217; music is born out of anger and discontent of the political environment we&#8217;re stuck in: Crass rants about the unjust class system, Subhumans warns us of the potential devastation of nuclear war, the Dead Kennedys wrote a song just to shit all over President Ronald Reagan and The Exploited&#8217;s <i>Maggie <\/i>doesn&#8217;t leave a lot to the imagination. (Any of these factors feel only too familiar? One? All of them?) \u201cSocial problems \u2013 that&#8217;s what punk&#8217;s about\u201d reckons Wattie himself, and Jello Biafra talks about punk&#8217;s incentive to \u201cbreak down different types of uniform and social etiquette getting in the way of an open mind\u201d. But what about some of the punk giants like the Buzzcocks or The Damned \u2013 you can&#8217;t hear much anti-establishment there. The Ramones didn&#8217;t even swear did they?!<\/span><\/p><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">That&#8217;s just it \u2013 anarcho-punk is just a branch of punk, and I was surprised to find even Discharge \u2013 with their famously pacifistic lyrics and cover art \u2013 aren&#8217;t all what they seem&#8230; Founding member Tez tells Ian Glasper in <\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><i>Burning Britain <\/i><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">\u201c[Cal] was the one who was really anti-war. The rest of us didn&#8217;t give a shit about it personally; we just wanted to go out there and make a fuckin noise and piss some people off!\u201d. Simon of Court Martial also mentions that \u201cwe weren&#8217;t anarchists or anything, we were just a bunch of kids from a working class background who formed a band for the love of music\u201d. Seems like there isn&#8217;t much of a clear answer to this one. Personally, I think the idea of working class teenagers gaining a platform to write lyrics about their life and perform their own music \u2013 the kind of kids who haven&#8217;t had prior years of guitar, drum or singing lessons paid for by their parents, and the kind of kids who didn&#8217;t go to private art and music schools \u2013 is a big political statement in itself.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-38ffa9c elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"38ffa9c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">DID PUNK DIE? IS IT ALIVE NOW?<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e89b387 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e89b387\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-size: medium; color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif;\">I&#8217;ll tell you what&#8217;s disheartening: hearing people, in 1981, talk about punk being dead. I think of the early 1980s as being the pinnacle of punk \u2013 if it was dead then, what is it now? <\/span><\/span><\/p><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-size: medium; color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif;\">But there are a couple things about punk that are immortal. Punk&#8217;s attitude can exist in other musical genres and places, as Jello Biafra explains: \u201cthere&#8217;s always going to be punk in some way \u2026 the spirit is where you find it\u201d. And it&#8217;s true: there&#8217;s always something to be angry about in social and political terms and things in 2018 give us plenty of ammo, the same kind of things fuelling punk back in the day. History repeats itself.<\/span><\/span><\/p><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-size: medium; color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif;\">When we look at mainstream music now, it&#8217;s hard to deny its impeccability, in terms of autotuning, musicianship, and image: we expect everything to sound and look perfect, not one note slipped, drum beat missed, and those superstars who rule the media have always been a flawless, plastic kind of beautiful. Now more than ever we need ugliness and crudity, someone to balls up a snare roll while headlining Glastonbury and someone else to break a string in the middle of recording an album then carry on playing a three-stringed bass for the next five songs. This age of robotic perfection is daunting and unreal and most importantly, hard to keep up. Punk&#8217;s momentum is running faster.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0468dda elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"0468dda\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">INFO:<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b011f6b elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b011f6b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul><li><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\"><i>Dead Kennedys Interview <\/i>(1983): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HRlYCNDn21o\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=HRlYCNDn21o<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/li><li><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\"><i>Punk in London <\/i>(1977): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2IGMqqN3UVY\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2IGMqqN3UVY<\/a> [21:09]<\/span><\/p><\/li><li><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\"><i>The Damned <\/i>(2016) <i>Vive Le Rock! <\/i>Issue #35 Vol.3 pg 52<\/span><\/p><\/li><li><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\"><i>Punk&#8217;s Not Dead <\/i>(2007): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=S9b_M-i7HF0&amp;t=4201s\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=S9b_M-i7HF0&amp;t=4201s<\/a> [1:10:00]<\/span><\/p><\/li><li><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\"><i>Burning Britain <\/i>The History of UK Punk 1980-1984 \u2013 Ian Glasper<\/span><\/p><\/li><li><p class=\"western\"><span style=\"font-family: 'HP Simplified', sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: medium;\"><i>Jello Biafra Interview <\/i>(2013): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ksKWonVOAgE\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ksKWonVOAgE<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>IS THERE STILL ANARCHY IN THE UK? I already know that the first line of an article is supposed to be catchy, intriguing, maybe shocking&#8230; but definitely in some way, is also supposed to make the reader feel ensured that the writer is informed. I&#8217;m going to do the opposite and tell you that I&#8217;m [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-343","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/343","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=343"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/343\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":647,"href":"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/343\/revisions\/647"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rebelagainuk.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=343"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}